[eesmith]

The point I was trying to make is to give examples of rules I thought were ugly, to give a concrete response to paulgb's request for such a rule.

One, as I learned, could be resolved by a simple use of a terminal ",".

The other is how it removes spaces from around "=" for keyword arguments, but not for other uses of "=".

I can't provide much more as I rarely use black. As a single developer, I don't have to worry much about that sort of compromise. ;)

[tda]

The removal of spaces around keyword arguments is per the PEP8 style guide. There is no point arguing with the style guide. It is there to end discussions. I also do not agree with everything in the style guide. But I keep that to myself. Because a single universal (but flawed) style guides >> competing style guides >> complete anarchy

[eesmith]

Yes, I even pointed out how it's in PEP 8.

That I think it's wrong and ugly is an entirely different point.

PEP 8 specifically says it it not universal:

> Many projects have their own coding style guidelines. In the event of any conflicts, such project-specific guides take precedence for that project. ...

> However, know when to be inconsistent – sometimes style guide recommendations just aren’t applicable. When in doubt, use your best judgment. ...

> Some other good reasons to ignore a particular guideline:

> When applying the guideline would make the code less readable, even for someone who is used to reading code that follows this PEP.

I think always omitting spaces there makes it less readable, even for someone who is used to reading PEP 8.

That makes me more compliant to PEP 8 than black. ;)