[ndsipa_pomu]

I saw the BBC's article "Elon Musk's gesture at Trump rally draws scrutiny" - way to downplay a Nazi salute, BBC.

Musk has been promoting extreme right-wing opinions, conspiracies and outright lies for quite a while now and he's obviously seeing the Trump presidency as a key success in his plot for world domination, so he no longer needs to hide his fascism/racism etc.

Why other organisations are seeking to downplay actual Nazi salutes must be because they are scared of the power imbalance and seek to appease (hint: that never works).

[addandsubtract]

German media is doing the same, posing it as a question or posing it as "looks like" and it's baffling. Then there's also the Anti-Defamation League coming forward protecting Musk and saying it wasn't a nazi salut. I don't even know how anyone, much less an organization meant to protect jewish interests, can come to that conclusion.

[mandmandam]

> I don't even know how anyone, much less an organization meant to protect jewish interests, can come to that conclusion.

Once you start differentiating between Zionist interests and Jewish interests, the last 80 years (and especially the last 15 months) makes a lot more sense.

[ndsipa_pomu]

I saw about the ADL's stance and just find it unbelievable. Are they just more interested in siding with Israel despite the atrocities?

I don't see how Musk's two Nazi salutes can be defended when he deliberately did it twice and has a history of supporting extreme right-wing views.

[SamBam]

ADL has been much more about pro-Israel than they have been about anti-antisemitism.

They know which way Israel's bread is buttered. Trump just removed all sanctions for the settlers, and allowed the sale of significantly bigger bombs to Israel on his first day.

Israel has a huge amount to gain from a Trump administration. ADL isn't going to blow that opportunity by calling out Elon's Nazi salute.