[gazchop]

That's literally unambiguously a nazi salute. I've seen them before, from actual nazis. Because I am descended from one unfortunately.

It's shameful and at no point does any word play and excuse making around it make it ok. This needs to stop now. Right now.

Add to that the literal support for the far right parties definitely and conclusively aligned with nazi ideology, such as the AfD, it's terrible for everyone.

[kragen]

The ADL, who is defending him, is the world's foremost anti-neo-Nazi organization. If they say not to worry, I'm going to trust their judgment, even though the photos look pretty questionable to me as a layman.

[kragen]

I was wrong; Musk endorsed the AfD, so he is a neo-Nazi. The ADL and I were wrong. https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-germa...

[pjc50]

The ADL have ended up in a weird place where the important thing to them is pro-Israel anti-Palestine policy, and everything is downstream from there.

The ADL last called out Musk for reinstating and awarding a tick to Kanye West after West made anti-semitic remarks which got him banned from Twitter. However, that's not as important to them as maintaining the war in Gaza.

[mtmail]

Look at the video, it's not a bad angle or misinterpretation. And he did it twice.

[gazchop]

I think you need to watch the videos not look at the photos as the videos show more unambiguous context and do not come with a narrative explaining them away. These are plain and simple nazi salutes.

[dathinab]

actually if you understand a bit of the meaning behind the salute and how Nazis appropriated terms like "unify", "heal" and a "new beginning" [for Germany] then some of the quotes which they use to weaken the argument of it being a "Sieg Heil" actually strengthen it.

[dathinab]

> world's foremost anti-neo-Nazi organization

no and they never have been, outside of the US and US contextualized business not many even know what it even is

through it is maybe the worlds foremost anti-antisemitism organization

But in case you might have missed it some neo Nazis and many more non-nazi fascists have dropped their antisemitism from a core point to a not much talked about side point, blaming everything on jews is just currently not very effective. You also might have missed that Israels government hasn't been exactly anti-fascist in recent times. Giving their far right, fear driving, not so open for opposition government which is fine with committing war crimes they themself aren't that far away from fascism.

Fascism doesn't need antisemitism, it just happens to most times come with it.