[alanfranz]

Not a US citizen here so I may miss some nuances.

I’d think the “tourist VISA” part makes sense after all.

The “work VISA” part is strange, as you say. If I’m on a 15 days business trip, could make sense. If on a multi-year H1B… well, it sucks.

[hmm37]

The definition of jurisdiction matters a lot here. But it's hard to explain why it would be that if someone who is here legal or illegal in the US, commits a crime is not subject to the jurisdiction of the US, and therefore should simply go free and be deported as if they were simply a diplomat, with diplomatic immunity...

There's many cases as well like the Gitmo cases that explain what "jurisdiction" means, and it doesn't even simply mean whether or not you are on US soil, but can be subjected to US laws, even when overseas.

[declan_roberts]

I had a coworker that actually did this unapologetically ("it's your system, your laws")

Wife came here very pregnant, overstayed her travel visa, had her baby and their child is a US citizen.

He's a green card holder now, but he was genuinely just thinking about his kid's future.