[dmckeon]

> Delta: "The Delta crew on flight 480 continues to follow ATC instruction along its journey from Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL). The flight is en route to HNL with no issue.”

Apparently ATC (Air Traffic Control) was unaware of the TRF (Temporary Flight Restriction) around Vandenburg for launches. Perhaps this will prompt an improvement in communication and cooperation in future.

[gresrun]

The ATC was very much aware of the launch in progress[0]. The ATC made a mistake by instructing DL480 to fly a more northern route than the aircrew originally filed.

[0]: https://youtu.be/4RMhf0YELrA

[stravant]

I wonder if ATC gets a number to call.

[whamlastxmas]

Lmao

[dylan604]

It's should not be ATC's responsibility to call anyone with random checks for NOTAMs to issue. If you want a NOTAM, you call ATC.

At least, that's the only way it makes any kind of logical sense.

[L-four]

Grandparent was a joke, when airplane pilots make a mistake. ATC gives them a number to call.

[NooneAtAll3]

I guess you haven't been much in comment sections under ATC recordings channels, like VASAaviation and such

it's relatively common to see events where pilots mess up (to a dangerous degree), so ATC says "I have a number for you to call"

basic pattern recognition transforms it into a meme catchphrase for the fans for anyone who messes up

[IncreasePosts]

Please don't post about things you don't know anything about. The internet is muddled enough as it is.

[dylan604]

Um, akshually, I do know about this. I've launched balloons to 100,000', and part of the proper procedure for doing this is to notify ATC. Depending on the type of balloon and equipment, you might have to contact them multiple times during the course of the balloon's flight. At a minimum, it is at launch and once you have it on the ground again. I had to notify when our balloon was above controlled air space on ascent, and then again when it was descending and ETA on re-entering controlled air space. We were near an air force base, and ATC relayed our reports to them as well

[IncreasePosts]

Okay, but we're talking about flying airplanes. Literally everyone who has ever even remotely looked into flying airplanes in America will know that ATC asking you to copy down a number means "you messed up big time and are going to get lectured, chewed out, or worse".

[rob74]

BTW, it's written Vandenberg, not Vandenburg as in the article.

[zoover2020]

The Dutch influence goes far!

[jmercouris]

Perhaps, but `burg` and `berg` have two different meanings in German as well, so perhaps that is where the noise comes from.

[wink]

Some of the noise is also there in German, cf https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergfried (the English page has the same name, but does not mention Burgfried). Just an example, could be very well unrelated.