[yread]

I don't get why is there so much energy wasted on these non issues:

> a. Very young kids being treated in invasive or hard-to-revert ways on flimsy evidence.

Leave it to the doctors/counsellors/psychologists and parents. They know best. If my kids wanted to change their gender I would sure appreciate if the state wasn't making it any more difficult.

> b. People with male musculature competing in women's sports leagues.

So a man won a boxing match with women. Who cares? Sports are entertainment. They have never been fair. Women boxers have a federation they can decide themselves who gets to play with who. No need for state to get involved.

[djur]

> So a man won a boxing match with women

This should be stated hypothetically, because it hasn't happened (at least, not in any official, regulated match).

[tordrt]

Has happened multiple times. Lastly in the Olympics. The evidence strongly suggests Imane Khelif is of male sex. Maybe most notable (though not boxing), 800m finals for women in 2016, gold, silver and bronze went to athletes of male sex.

[nradov]

Sports are more than just entertainment. There is no way for the state to avoid getting involved when the sports are run through publicly funded schools. And this impacts more than just boxing. At some point the state has to decide whether inclusion or fair play is more important. At least for sports that involve strength and speed we can't have it both ways. There are no easy answers here, and we can't just pretend the issue doesn't matter.

https://www.shewon.org/

[HDThoreaun]

Just anecdata but my sister was encouraged to change her gender by multiple different therapists. She later “outgrew” that for lack of a better term and has emphatically told me that listening to them was a mistake. Sometimes parents know best idk.

[numpad0]

There are clearly broken experts addicted to the fact that SRS sterilize recipients. As much as I would support people with GID, there's something very broken about the field.