[maiar]

The issue is game-theoretic. There’s value in having money, absolutely, but most people end up having to chase it and never get any. If one person chases money, emancipation results for him. If everyone chases money, as most of us are forced to do, we end up miserable, and nobody wins except the people we should be removing from power as fast as possible.

Money clearly matters a lot, though. Why? Because we live in an objectively evil society—an oligarchy that has no language but money.

[getreal99]

It's easy to write "just get more money" from a Palo Alto coffee shop making six figures and screwing off on HN all day in between "looks good" PR reviews. The rest of America is a little more angry than that.

[Swizec]

> The issue is game-theoretic. There’s value in having money, absolutely, but most people end up having to chase it and never get any

We are on HN. The typical person here can achieve freedom for themselves and their family. And we should work to change the system also.

Remember that someone with 2mil can easily FIRE in America and still be closer to the destitute than the billionaires. 2mil is pretty achievable to most people on HN and we should definitely encourage each other to get there.

Vilifying small scale financial freedom is part of tall poppy syndrome and plays directly into the hands of wealthy oligarchs. The more people who think getting rich is bad, the better.

We gotta always remind each other that a millionaire is closer to us normies than they are to the billionaires.

[maiar]

This is an excellent post and I agree. That said, we should vilify people who get rich (small or large scale) in reprehensible ways, e.g. class traitors and people who enforce the system. But the distinction between people who simply succeed in a corrupt world (because life is random) and those who are rewarded for making it worse is important and underacknowledged.