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by Suppafly 516 days ago
>In general I wholeheartedly agree. But if the person in front of you has done or advocated for things that cause harm or is themself a horrible person then I disagree.

I feel like the parent comment is pretending to be deep and meaningful but is really just rehashing the 'both sides are the same' argument with a side of 'everyone is entitled to their own opinion'. It's nice to say that we should judge everyone for who they are, but if who they are is a vocal member of a group that wants to hurt other people, that's all we need to know to judge them. Pretending otherwise is silly.
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ethbr1 516 days ago
The difference is between judging an individual for what they themselves say vs what identities you associate with them (or even those they associate with themselves).
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Suppafly 516 days ago
>or even those they associate with themselves

I see no problem judging someone for the identities that they choose to associate themselves with.

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ethbr1 516 days ago
Over and above their works and words?
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Suppafly 516 days ago
Their associations are their works and words. You can't just handwave that stuff away as being irrelevant because you like the parts of their works and words that don't touch on anything you deem to be an association.
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ethbr1 516 days ago
I know people of the political party I tend to disagree with who are saints and dedicate the majority of their time to others.

I know people of the political party I tend to agree with who are insufferable selfish pricks and treat others terribly.

Works and words aren't always associations.

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Suppafly 516 days ago
>I know people of the political party I tend to disagree with who are saints and dedicate the majority of their time to others.

Except for the part of the time that they are devoting to supporting a political party that is actively harming you and people you love.. you can't just wave that off as not being important just because they are nice the rest of the time.

>I know people of the political party I tend to agree with who are insufferable selfish pricks and treat others terribly.

And they should be negatively judged for the latter behavior.

Both examples should be negatively judged for their behavior, you're just choosing to ignore some of the behavior of the first person.

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