[isk517]

Not a die hard defender of capitalism by any means but this is a gross over simplification. If you look at all of the alternatives during the early stages of capitalism the vast majority had oppression as a built in feature. It didn't bring about utopia but it did offer the best advantages over the competition, up until the competition all went under.

[error_logic]

If everyone has destruction of the competition as their primary goal, everyone suffers. The voting system itself incentivizes that, and now competition is going to be driven underground and emerge destructively just as it did in the USSR.

Extremes of left and right-wing politics both require excessive force to implement.

We need a voting system that will overcome the nash equilibrum of mutually assured destruction by assigning weights to the outcomes of collective responsibility for our interactions, not just "be selfish or not" on an individual level or "stay in the frying pan or put some people in the fire" politically.

[__MatrixMan__]

Can you expand on this weighting idea you have re: voting?

[isk517]

I image they are talking about something like ranked choice voting. Australia currently uses a system like it instead of first past the post. From what I've heard it doesn't really stop a 2 party system from forming, but it does keep it stable because political parties can see which way the wind is blowing. If 40% of your vote came from people that had less extreme party as their first round choice, and 10% of your votes came from people that had more extreme party as their first round choice then you get a good idea of what the majority of your voters actually care about.

[__MatrixMan__]

I'm not so sure

> assigning weights to the outcomes of collective responsibility for our interactions

Voting is an input, not an outcome. Anyhow re: ranked choice voting, it's better than FPTP like we use in the US, though if I had to pick one it would be https://www.starvoting.org

[zanellato19]

Sure, but the least awful of all awful is not great. Capitalism was the _least worse_ of the options we've seen. And even that can be debated, imo.