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by optimalsolver 518 days ago
>the public repeating the benchmarks themselves

The public has no access to this benchmark.

In fact, everyone thought it was all locked up in a vault at Epoch AI HQ, but looks like Sam Altman has a copy on his bedside table.
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menaerus 518 days ago
Perhaps what he meant is that the public will be able to benchmark the model themselves by throwing different difficulty math problems at it and not necessarily the FrontierMath benchmark. It should become pretty obvious if they were faking the results or not.
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optimalsolver 518 days ago
It's been found [0] that slightly varying Putnam problems causes a 30% drop in o1-Preview accuracy, but that hasn't put a dent in OAI's hype.

There's absolutely no comeuppance for juicing benchmarks, especially ones no one has access to. If performance of o3 doesn't meet expectations, there'll be plenty of people making excuses for it ("You're prompting it wrong!", "That's just not its domain!").

[0] https://openreview.net/forum?id=YXnwlZe0yf&noteId=yrsGpHd0Sf

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menaerus 518 days ago
> If performance of o3 doesn't meet expectations, there'll be plenty of people making excuses for it

I agree and I can definitely see that happening but it is also not impossible, given the incentive and impact of this technology, for some other company/community to create yet another, perhaps, FrontierMath-like benchmark to cross-validate the results.

I also don't disagree that it is not impossible for OpenAI to have faked these results. Time will tell.

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