[Lionga]

America has genocided 10s of millions for what it is worth. From Native Americans to slaves to all the wars in the last years to "export democracy". If any country can rival China in killing people needlessly it is the USA for sure.

[notavalleyman]

Hmm if Saddam killed 50 thousand innocent Iraqis each year, and American intervention only cost 40k lives each year ... Then do we deduct 10, or add 40, to the "ten million" number you came up with?

[mancerayder]

In the 21st century the United States did this? In the 1980s? At what point do we compare countries in a modern era versus a bullet list of their historical record.

By that standard, Norway, Sweden and Denmark should be shunned for their slavery, raping, looting and imperialist colonizing abroad -- in the 10-11th centuries.

[wumeow]

You get one guess for who caused the spike on this graph of global deaths.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067361...

[wruza]

Not to mention incarceration rates, 119 vs 541 people per 100k. 4.5x difference to an oppressive state.

[lavela]

Don't forget about all the deaths related to unnecessary poverty or lack in health care.

[Retric]

If you’re comparing either current or historic atrocities, China is going to lose badly.

Trying to mix and match is obviously just disingenuous here.