[Andys]

This is exactly what we saw when Sept 11 happened (over 20 years ago) and the Republicans decided to invade Iraq and carry out all sorts of extra-judicial mischief.

I started to think the world was going to end but its ticking along in the same manner which has now coloured my views.

[csomar]

States have a different (and significantly longer) timelines that humans. Even the Soviet Union "instant" collapse took years.

[stogot]

The 2008 administration under Obama carried out far more drone strikes & extra judicial efforts. Not justifying it but let’s not forget either