[ninetyninenine]

That’s not true. There was not endless hype about flying to the moon when the first plane flew.

People are well aware of the limits of LLMs.

As slow as the progress is, we now have metrics and measurable progress towards agi even when there are clear signs of limitations on LLMs. We never had this before and everyone is aware of this. No one is delusional about it.

The delusion is more around people who think other people are making claims of going to the moon in a year or something. I can see it in 10 to 30 years.

[b112]

That’s not true. There was not endless hype about flying to the moon when the first plane flew.

I didn't say there was endless hype, I gave an example of how one technology would never result in another... even if to a layperson it seems connected.

(The sky, and the moon, are "up")

People are well aware of the limits of LLMs.

Surely you mean "Some people". Because the point in this thread is that there is a lot of hype, and FOMO, and "OMG AGI!" chatter running around LLMs. Which will never ever make AGI.

[ninetyninenine]

You said you didn’t comprehend why there was hype and I explained why there was hype.

Then you made an analogy and I said your analogy is irrelevant because nobody thinks LLMs are agi nor do they think agi is coming out of LLMs this coming year.

[b112]

Actually, plenty of people think LLMs will result in AGI. That's what the hype is about, because those same people think "any day now". People are even running around saying that LLMs are showing signs of independent thought, absurd as it is.

And hype doesn't mean "this year" regardless.

Anyhow, I don't think we'll close this gap between our assessment.