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It is also very common amongst those men who don't claim to support womens rights. It's just that there is no shock about deception. Reading the vulture article, there is attempt to tie in feminism in that article, but looking at details, it doesn't really come into picture - it is just powerful man straight up doing whatever he wants. In case of Pavlovich she was just straight up delivered in his hands by Palmer with Palmers full knowledge on what would likely happen. That is what actually shocks me the most.

In a way there is no avoiding feminism - we are commenting article written by feminist expressing view of some radfems that there can be no consensual bdsm. Your warning has it's own chapter in one of Dworkins books.