[23B1]

Because the Chinese are openly hostile towards the United States and its interests, whereas American companies have a vested interest in the U.S. and are beholden to its laws.

I don't know why realpolitik is so hard for technologists to understand, perhaps too much utopian fantasy scifi?

[tmnvdb]

It is really amazing to see so many replies here of people who do not just disagree with the ruling but completely deny the principles at play exist.

[Spunkie]

I've honestly never seen so many stupid people making stupid arguments on HN before.

Nothing but lazy disingenuous arguments who's only purpose is to bait conversations for replying with even lazier whataboutisms.

Either the brainrot has really set in for these people or we are being flooded with ai/bots.

[kjkjadksj]

What is stupid in these replies to me is that people seemingly think the interests of american companies and the american working class are somehow aligned.

[tmnvdb]

It’s possible to recognize both that

(a) American companies’ business interests don’t fully align with the needs of their users or the general public,

and that

(b) the Chinese Communist Party’s objectives —which include weakening, destabilizing, and impoverishing the United States— are even less aligned with the interests of American citizens.

[kjkjadksj]

What of fox news then? Does spreading lies and dividing the population not count as destabilization as well? American media agencies are not immune to being coopted by the russian, iranian, chinese governments, or really the whims of any oligarch. There is no protective mechanism. The entities that represent the source of truth in this country can be bought and sold like an equity.

[23B1]

Stupid false dichotomy.

[tmnvdb]

Yes. Or both.

[23B1]

Or mutually-supporting fires, a death-spiral of agitprop fueling already bent values.

[23B1]

Computer touchers awash in luxury beliefs.

[alonsonic]

The idealist and optimist part of technologists tend to block the understanding of the rather simple practicalities at play in geo politics.