[slt2021]

China is leading AI race with their open source deepseek-v3. It is laughable to think they this regulation with stop them. USA should actually collaborate, not isolate.

China engineers have capability to get around these silly sanctions, by renting cloud GPUs from USA companies for example, to get access to as many compute as they want. or to use consumer grade compute, or their homegrown Chinese CPUs/GPUs.

USA should actually embrace open source and collaborate together, as we are still in the very beginning of AI revolution

[kube-system]

The entire point is to not collaborate, because this tech is being used for military purposes. The US wants to throw up roadblocks to make it more difficult. Obviously, against a foreign military, anything is a mitigation and not a prevention.

> China engineers have capability to get around these silly sanctions, by renting cloud GPUs from USA companies for example

That's why they're also moving towards KYC for cloud providers.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/01/29/2024-01...

[bilbo0s]

Also when you look at the list of nations targeted it's easy to see that this is not necessarily only about China. I think on HN people get China blindness and maybe have a hard time seeing other threats out there.

The list is controversial obviously, but I have to think nations wouldn't be on any tier of the list except the no-restrictions tier if there wasn't something our intel people weren't worried about. Maybe the concerns are not legitimate, but there's definitely a reason we don't want those nations having access to SOTA AI models.

[slt2021]

Yes, USA wants to ensure global domination of large big tech in AI world so that openai/anthropic/etc did not have competitors