[nyokodo]

Also, crucially, this was an operational test by BO whereas Starship and Super Heavy are still in developmental testing. New Glenn will now start launching commercial payloads assuming the outcome doesn’t reveal any problems with the overall launch.

[adastra22]

I'm not sure that's a crucial difference. SpaceX doesn't operate the way the rest of the launch industry does. They could keep launching any of the last few iterations if they wanted, and it would be perfectly capable of reaching orbit and carrying a payload. Unclear what size payload from the info we have.

[tsimionescu]

Is it actually capable of carrying a payload? Have they confirmed that? The fuel graphs they show during launcheshave always shown the ship being full on launch, empty by the end, it's not clear to me how they would carry cargo in addition to what they're showing now.

[adastra22]

All those reentry tiles, reentry & burn back fuel, and header tanks add up to a lot of launch weight that wouldn't be needed in an expendable mission profile.

[tsimionescu]

Sure, but that's not what this is about. The quoted capacity of Starship is supposed to be for a fully rapidly reusable Starship

So the question remains: is the current Starship design capable of carrying a commercial payload to at least LEO, and then come back safely down as they demonstrated?

[adastra22]

I don't see how that is relevant? Surely you'd be comparing against other launch vehicles, which are all expendable.

[imtringued]

Not just that, they would have launched RocketLab's ESCAPADE on their first flight, if they hadn't missed the launch window.