[theultdev]

Oh stop, it has nothing to do with xenophobia, the CCP has a terrible spying and human rights track record (organ harvesting, concentration camps, child labor, etc.).

Nothing to do with the Chinese people as a whole, and everything to do about their overlords.

Before you do some whataboutism, yes the US spies, even on it's own citizens. That is a separate issue we should make sure doesn't happen.

Two things can be bad and is not an excuse for more spying or letting foreign adversaries broadcast psyops.

[hxegon]

What psyops are you talking about? Is it a bunch of US citizens talking about how they don't like the US bankrolling a genocide? Why is it more important to protect tiktok users from a threat no one can actually point to versus preserving a place a lot of people feel like is very important to their day to day lives? Why are these lawmakers prioritizing this over actual threats like school shootings? Honestly the general opinion is that this is extremely obviously not about national security for anybody I've talked to about this and I can't possibly disagree.

[theultdev]

Yeah that's a good example.

Framing Gaza as the victims in this whole ordeal.

That's like the 3rd time you dropped Israel in this China topic.

Really trying to shoehorn that in eh?

[hxegon]

Do you have an actual counter-argument to this or do you just like pointing out that you don't think Palestinians have a right to live? Just because we disagree doesn't mean that I'm only against human rights violations and war crimes because China said they were bad. Is that how you live your life? Being a good little boy or girl and doing what uncle sam tells you to? If no, why do you assume other people aren't capable of thinking for themselves?

[theultdev]

You're terrible at this. Noone is defending the US, your whataboutism is just irrelevant.

I can be against Chinese spying and bad things the US does.

Israel is irrelevant in this thread...

Hopefully they aren't paying you the full 50c for these posts, get better.

[hxegon]

You are arguing that my only reason for being against a genocide is either that I've been brainwashed or paid for. Get better at having basic human empathy. Israel is extremely relevant in this thread as pro-Palestinian sentiment is arguably the reason it's being banned.

You proved my point. You claim to be a free thinker and then try to dismiss what I'm saying by claiming I'm paid for without any substance.