[ahofmann]

US based companies (like china and europe based ones) are not allowed to talk about it, when state actors implementing their spying tools. It is just naive to think that cloudflare doesn't give access to state agencies. As others have said, it is more likely that cloudflare as a company is entirely built around the idea to provide a singe point of surveillance to US agencies.

[wumeow]

Love the double standard here. An offhand comment about an email from the DHS is considered strong evidence that Cloudflare was "started from day one to be a government spying program" while anything Cloudflare could say to deny it is brushed off as not strong enough.

[mattbee]

I'm not judging the evidence FOR Cloudflare being a spy.

But it's a natural double standard that when your potential spy says "I'm not a spy!", well it's no evidence AGAINST.