[pydry]

They're politically captured and lacking sovereignty more than they are naive. It's awkward and nobody wants to admit it but fundamentally they have a relationship with the US that is similar to the one Belarus has with Russia.

That's why when the pipeline was blown up and they became dependent instead on more expensive American LNG they accepted their fate with a minimum of protest. It's why they've not demonstrated much interest in finding the culprit, despite the incredible economic damage it incurred.

[Perceval]

If they were a puppet of the U.S. like you say, they wouldn't have been investing in and dependent on Russia in the first place. When Trump was President the first time and he chided them on their dependence on Russia and asked them to build a floating LNG terminal, they laughed.

The Germans are in the situation they're in because they did not take U.S. advice on the entirely predictable Russian bad behavior.

[pydry]

>If they were a puppet of the U.S. like you say, they wouldn't have been investing in and dependent on Russia in the first place

A poodle doesnt always behave. When it is slapped though, it falls into line.

>The Germans are in the situation they're in because they did not take U.S. advice

...and the US responded by destroying the poodle's energy infrastructure. Biden threatened to end it and it ended.

You think the poodle ought to be better behaved. I get what you're trying to say, dont worry. You have the same attitude Russians do towards Belarus when it "mis steps".

[Perceval]

Germany destroyed its own energy infrastructure by shutting down all of its nuclear energy generation capacity.

The wartime destruction of Russia's coercive instrument is secondary to Germany's own self-inflicted wound.

[tw1984]

the entire EU is a huge US colony nowadays.

just look back 15 years, for all those emerging sectors that were/are hot during the period, how many new EU companies managed to rise? a few drug makers for sure, but everything else is just dead despite the fact that they have a huge economy and a relatively unified market with hundreds of million people.

EU is dying a slow economic death, the US must be very happy for that.

[RestlessMind]

How much of that is because of US colonialism and how much is on the Europeans themselves who display some of the most conservative (with a small c) attitudes? Mario Draghi's report was a good rebuke to the EU mindset and culture.

[tw1984]

do yourself a favor, for all those emerging sectors considered as hot in the last 15 years, like 5G, mobile internet, renewable energy, EVs, drones, AI etc, just name one company that managed to rise to the very top and highly competitive with their US peers.

care to explain why EU, Japan, Korea, Canada all stopped producing such companies? all mindset and culture issues?

[Perceval]

Having weak and moribund allies is not happy news for the United States.