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by lesuorac 514 days ago
But when you fly people who clearly have an owner (themself) to another country and they don't have a passport, the country holds the airline accountable.

Why not hold the captain of the ship responsible for loading illegal cargo? Isn't this the whole point of a ship's manifest, to record what's on the ship? Like extend it slightly more to also record the legality.
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chipsa 513 days ago
If you never want to get captains to be willing to sail to your ports again… also, manifests can be wrong, or insufficiently descriptive. Manifest may accurately say a container is full of machine parts. But neglect to mention the machine they are parts of is a machine gun.
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jdeibele 513 days ago
Airlines seem to have a policy of passports need to be valid (not expire) for six months after the trip.

Our daughter was going overseas and we had to get her passport renewed because it would expire 3 months after she would have gotten home. The country was fine with that but there was a chance that she would show up at the airport and the airline would not allow her to board because it was less than 6 months.

If the airline lets them fly and they're rejected, the airline has to get them back and the airline doesn't want to risk that.

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robertlagrant 513 days ago
> But when you fly people who clearly have an owner (themself) to another country and they don't have a passport, the country holds the airline accountable.

> Why not hold the captain of the ship responsible for loading illegal cargo? Isn't this the whole point of a ship's manifest, to record what's on the ship? Like extend it slightly more to also record the legality.

Just because an airline lets you fly somewhere, you can still be rejected at the other end. I think it's a bit much to expect every captain to know the legality of everything in their hold, to all destinations, and enforce that.

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lesuorac 513 days ago
> I think it's a bit much to expect every captain to know the legality of everything in their hold, to all destinations, and enforce that.

Is it too much to ask? They should be offloading that to whomever they're getting the cargo from and whomever they're getting their cargo from should have a valid import/export license which means they're willing to go through the steps to ship cargo legally.

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