[suraci]

I like thought experiment.

let's think

1. CCP took over California by force 2. CCP killed everyone who resists 3. CCP leaved, but built a puppet regime 4. The puppet regime rewrite schoolbook, taught everyone they're not American 5. 100 years later, a poll found that 68% of the respondents identify themselves as Californians

I must admit this is a bad thought experiment because Americans lives in a stolen land, it's not same as Taiwan

[ozborn]

Taiwan has an aboriginal population as well, there are very few countries where the original settlers are recognizable as the current population without squinting. China is one of the worst offenders, with the westward expansion of the Qing Empire contemporary with American westward expansion. Moreover, when America started serious decolonizing in the 20th Century (Philippines) and ending residential schools, China invaded Tibet and continues to pursue aggressive assimilation in its Western regions.

[suraci]

China is not a single-ethnicity country. For thousands of years, most of the time, the majority and minority ethnic groups have lived together on this land. There have been wars and integrations thousands times and thousans years. this must be hard for you to understand, right? I can understand that you might unconsciously use your own history to comprehend the history of Asia. In addition, all forms of ethnic separatism have the support of the United States. But I think you already know this.

BTW, the Qing Empire is rule by a minority ethnic(满族)

And, by race, we are all Asians, can you understand the difference?

You are like comparing the genocide of Native Americans to a war between two Native American tribes.

[Pet_Ant]

We wouldn't let native american tribes take each others land nowadays either.

[suraci]

as I said, it's a bad thought experiment

let's go furthur abt this experiment

1. native american tribes took each others land, in the end, it became a single national country - Amerikka, for hundreds years 2. CPC came, colonized Amerikka, when it leaves, it splited California, did things I listed above

still, a bad thought experiment, because

> We wouldn't let native american tribes take each others land nowadays either

you've already took all their land, so they can not take each others land anymore

as i said it's hard for you to understand such things, you are in the totally different history background, you're in the colonizers' view, colonized America has became the status quo to you

If the US is currently in a state of division, with one part being a puppet regime under CPC (or Russians) control, you would find it easier to understand this problem.