[hollowturtle]

Nice job! If only HTML had a serious templating system(no the template tag isn’t enough) that could be used without JavaScript, we won’t need any 3rd party system for assembling static sites. For example a mechanism for including partials with the <link> tag and refer them inside a <template> or directly into current html

[ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/if...

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/po...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Includes

Also, other than to satisfy a purist desire, why do you need this?

You can pre-render HTML quickly using a variety of template systems, and it would outperform what you are suggesting every time (from a client's perspective). I mean, think about the potential CSS resolution complexity, FOUC, etc.

[recursive]

In the 90s, we used Server Side Includes (SSI) for this. Probably still works.

[skyfaller]

One modern approach would be Caddy Server's templates, using Golang templating:

https://caddyserver.com/docs/modules/http.handlers.templates

The "include" function should do the job:

{{include "path/to/file.html"}}

[ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7]

httpd, nginx, a number of other servers support SSI

https://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_ssi_module.html

Caddy chose not to, I guess?

https://caddy.community/t/caddy-update-on-ssi-server-side-in...

[alwillis]

You generally can’t use SSI on many popular platforms for static websites like Netlify, etc.

[someothherguyy]

However, you could generate the static HTML easily and then publish it on those platforms, which is what many people do today (probably not often using SSI).

[Gualdrapo]

(Chiming in because other people replying to you kept on the "iframe-like" part of the argument)

Or serializing `<template>`s without needing JS. Like in lists (`<ol>`, `<ul>`, `<dl>`...). All in all `<template>`s are a nice thing to have, and I do use them a lot (like in my own portfolio), but it feels really lacking without JS.

[nigel182]

We've got frames and iframes...

[mixmastamyk]

I mentioned the object tag elsewhere: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42706227

[campak]

You could use HTMX.org ;)

[morcus]

Does HTMX work without Javascript?

[recursive]

They wrote the javascript so you don't have to.