[Melomomololo]

We apparently get enough protein due daily consumption and the avg sporty person doesn't need protein powder.

The only significant and obvious thing to take is creatin.

Lots of esoteric believe in the strength/ gym sport.

No you do not need to eat rice and chicken and broccoli every single day for gains just because a steroids taking gym bro does it.

Go to the gym 2-3 times a week, do enough weight that you can't repeat the exercise after 5-15 reps and do 3 sets min.

Magic

[tomlue]

> We apparently get enough protein due daily consumption and the avg sporty person doesn't need protein powder.

I don't know what that means. The amount of protein people get varies dramatically. Chicken is a remarkably efficient way to get protein. Greek yogurt is also pretty good.

If you haven't measured your protein intake (with an app like myfitnesspal) you should try it.

I always thought I was a pretty knowledgable person when it came to nutrition and my eating habits competely changed when I bothered to look up the calorie and macro count of everything I ate. I also dropped 40 pounds and put on a lot of muscle.

[sumtechguy]

Someone I know uses them for weight control. Their nutritionist recommended one small glass per day to help control hunger.

But geeze these protein shake/dietary websites are the most dark pattern sites. countdown clocks, hurry only 3 items left and one disappears while you are looking at it, sneaky monthly addons, extra fee at the end. Look I just want to buy a bucket of whatever protein garbage you are selling that will last 2 months. That they have extra junk in them that should not be there, is unsurprising.

[javcasas]

That's what I thought too. But after 5 years of gym, I wasn't neither bigger nor leaner.

The diet at home was "good enough" - because every unchecked diet is "good enough", regardless of composition. That's what everyone says about their diet.

Turns out diet is 60% of gym gains. I'm saying this with no steroids at all.

[Melomomololo]

And then you started taking protein powder and started gaining again?

[javcasas]

Story is longer than that. Got married. Did't go to the gym for 9 years. Moved countries. Re-taked gym, along with better diet, started on protein powder + creatine. 1.5 years in and I'm already over what I couldn't accomplish in 5 years. And I'm not even taking the diet too seriously.