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by lutoma 526 days ago
The difference is that the previous non-profit was a not-for-profit corporation (gGmbh). This legal form is roughly analogous to most US non-profits (501(c)3 Inc.) and meant that as founder, Eugen Rochko still had more or less full control over the organization.

As I understand it, the new organization is supposed to be a non-profit association (e.V.), which is a distinct type of organization under German law that enforces democratic decision-making and enables people to become voting members of the NGO.

It's a bit difficult to explain as there is no analogue in most common law systems (sadly).
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zrail 525 days ago
The Open Home Foundation (Home Assistant, ESPHome, etc) is a similar contemporary example. It's organized as a Stiftung in Switzerland, which as I understand it is somewhat analogous to a US 501(c)(3) private foundation, in so far as it is an independent legal entity that can't solicit donations directly from the public and isn't necessarily run democratically like an e.V.

There are non-profit associations in the US (notably 501(c)(6) business leagues) but I don't know enough about them or about e.V. to speak about the differences.

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wirrbel 525 days ago
It seems they lost the first game in the gGmbH (gemeinnützige GmbH, thus "charitable Ltd") leading to a normal GmbH (similar to a Ltd.).

In Germany only certain purposes qualify as "gemeinnützige" which makes the formation of non-profits at times difficult, especially in the computing space.

Maybe I didn't read careful enough. But it's actually not spelled out which form the new European non-profit is incorporated in.

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andypiper 522 days ago
> it's actually not spelled out which form the new European non-profit is incorporated in

Correct, this is underway, and we're looking in to the right option for the organisation. As of right now, we have options, but the new entity is not finalised so it is not possible to spell out the format yet.

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Tomte 525 days ago
> enables people to become voting members of the NGO.

Only if the current management approves. You can keep control over the club, if you wish, you just need two or three people helping you.

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