[mattbuilds]

Is it really the best approach though if we sink all this capital into it if it can never achieve AGI? It’s wildly expensive and if it doesn’t achieve all the lofty promises, it will be a large waste of resources IMO. I do think LLMs have use cases, but when I look at the current AI hype, the spend doesn’t match up with the returns. I think AI could achieve this, but not with a brute force like approach.

[_heimdall]

There's still even a more fundamental question before getting there, how are we defining AGI?

OpenAI defines it based on the economic value of output relative to humans. Historically it had a much less financially arrived definition and general expectation.

[antonvs]

You really can't take anything OpenAI says about this kind of thing seriously at this point. It's all self-serving.

[_heimdall]

It's still important though, they are the ones many are expecting to lead the industry (whether that's an accurate expectation is surely up for debate).

[kopirgan]

Market will sort that out just like it did dotcom or tulip madness.

Another big push back is copyrighted content. Without proper revenue model how to pay for that?

That will also restrict what can be "learned". Already there's lawsuit, allegations of using pirated books etc

[_heimdall]

I'll be surprised if anything meaningful comes of those issues in the end.

Copyright issues here feel very similar to claims against Microsoft in the 80s and 90s.