[zwdr]

I'm not against using these buttons, the harmful/annoying thing is that they're used to set tracking cookies. The most simple solution would be to put them on an extra page or only enable them when the user clicks some button. But I'm sure if smart people think about it they find much more solutions. Obviously the designers of this site didnt, and thats what I dont like- being against "bad monopolies" and giving FB more data? Seriously?

[zwdr]

>You could just, you know, choose not be logged in with facebook. Im not.

I dont even have an account.

EDIT: It doesn't matter BTW if you're logged in. The cookie will still be set.

>And as for tracking cookies: every website has them to some extend. And every browser lets you pick the policy you prefer.

That's true, but I think it's just careless from the designers to leave out something like this on a website standing for a mission to get rid of "bad monopolies". It's obviously not a big thing, but still something which makes me scratch my head.

>But if you care some much.. Go help them out!

Yeah, I should do that since I'm bitching here.

[ralfn]

You could just, you know, choose not be logged in with facebook. Im not.

And as for tracking cookies: every website has them to some extend. And every browser lets you pick the policy you prefer.

But if you care some much.. Go help them out!

[slowpoke]

>You could just, you know, choose not be logged in with facebook. Im not.

This utterly misses the point. This is not about being logged into Facebook or not. I don't have a Facebook account I could be logged into, and they still try to track me (if they could, and wouldn't be shitlisted by at least 4 different filters, that is).

Facebook has no business with me. They can - and should have to - stay the fuck out of my life. The same goes for the other billions of people who don't have a Facebook account and hopefully won't get one.

And even if you are logged into Facebook, that still gives them no right to track you. Privacy is an inalienable right that you cannot give away by signing up for a Facebook account.

>And as for tracking cookies: every website has them to some extend.

That's not an argument, that's a lame excuse. Everyone needs to stop this shit. There's no justification for it. And no, targeted ads are not a justification. If your business model depends on infringing on the privacy of people, then your business modell is highly unethical and should be illegal.

[nikcub]

use a browser that blocks third party cookies by default. safari does, opera does and google has an option buried somewhere 9 clicks away in the settings.

[lukejduncan]

I think the poster has a legitimate point. As an end user you can protect yourself, but as an organization that cares about Internet freedom it's a legitimate concern to consider: "Are we enabling tracking through the use of our advocacy, and if so can we avoid that."

Although, I wouldn't go so far as to say that I can't take them seriously because they decided to use the buttons.

[alex_c]

And this is why movements fail, because everyone wants to add their own agenda.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that privacy is not a worthwhile concern, but this movement seems to be about protecting the Internet from government abuse, not about privacy practices of private companies. Sure, it could be about both, but that would dilute the message and create a handicap, especially if it means having to avoid some of the primary methods of communication online.

[nikcub]

I think this organization has bigger issues than facebook buttons on its website

[radagaisus]

Not really. If Facebook already established a cookie in your browser they will still receive it in all browsers but FF.

[slurgfest]

one thing at a time. the purpose of this is to have a more effective, durable 'internet lobby'. not to make everyone get rid of fb buttons.