[thfuran]

>Sure, like women getting educated, working, and having equal rights?

That only took a few thousand years and still isn't really there yet.

[mmooss]

It took a couple decades really. I don't think what happened in 9th century Japan was really relevant to the modern women's rights movement.

They delivered the results, and there's nothing you can say that changes the facts. You seem to really want to believe, and everyone to believe, how hopeless you are.