[annzabelle]

That's the most egregious hiring practice I've actually seen. The white/black/hispanic/asian american managers all hire teams with multiple ethnicities based on the most qualified candidates for the job, while Indian born managers frequently seem to end up with teams that are 80+% Indian. I don't think I've ever seen a team that's 80% white, even in roles that require US Citizenship, but 80% Indian happens frequently.

[runako]

> I don't think I've ever seen a team that's 80% white

I assure you this is very common in the industry, at least in the US. I can even go further: that 80% white team will usually also not have any women. 80% white men on a team describes most of the teams I've worked on over the decades.

[golly_ned]

Depends highly on the scale of the company from what I've seen. Megacorp can sponsor visas and end up with entire organizations of Indian or Chinese.

[nprateem]

How many women were doing Comp Sci in your year at uni? Mine had 6 out of 110. And they mostly hated it and don't work in IT now the ones I know about.

[runako]

At my university it looks like the CS program is currently just shy of 40% women. This is higher than it was when I went. But the degree is a red herring.

Most of the engineering teams I have worked with have had members who did not have CS degrees. In fact, it's unusual in my experience for e.g. project managers, QA, or design to have CS degrees. Most performing engineering organizations include people who did not study computer science at a university, and that is a good thing.

Quite a number of good engineers do not have CS degrees. Whether or not a person studied CS at age 20 has almost no bearing on their capability to excel at engineering at age 30. Checking degrees is not a useful gauge in the field, and doing so often makes one appear snobbish.

[aldebran]

There’s a simpler non malicious explanation for this. Asians know other Asians in tech and hire based on who they are familiar with rather than their ethnicity. It’s also why women managers tend to have more women in their teams.

It’s not malicious. Just a side effect of people’s network. Should that change? Yes. You want a heterogenous team. And this is exactly why DEI is important hahaha

[throwaway48305]

This isn't just a meta phenomenon, it happens at all the big tech companies and it's always asians and indians that form insular groups (indians slightly less so). It is common and not an accident.

[ukoki]

Are you sure? there are particular combinations of ethnicity and gender for which people seem to be quite convinced it's "malicious" when hirers stick to their own

[l0t0b0r0s]

Its taken as malicious when white males do it. Which is why you don't see them doing it anymore.

[formerlurker]

You’re right. This article describes many lawsuits of how U.S. citizens would get replaced with Indians on H1B.

> Insiders Tell How IT Giant Favored Indian H-1B Workers Over US Employees

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-cognizant-h1b-visas-...

I do not understand why the H1B visas are skewed towards Indian men. It isn’t fair to Indian women nor people from other countries.

> The latest data showed around 72% of visas were issued to Indian nationals, followed by 12% to Chinese citizens. [2]

> About 70% of those who enter the US on H-1B visas are men, with the average age of those approved being around 33. [2]

[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg87n2ml11o

[fooker]

> I don't think I've ever seen a team that's 80% white

I have. But surely that won't convince you.