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by JumpCrisscross 520 days ago
> US could end homelessness but would need to stop immigration and change the constitution which could force people in shelter

Immigrants are a tiny fraction of the homeless [1]. And we’ve tried criminalising homelessness; incarceration is forced shelter and incredibly expensive.

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30739834/
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ipaddr 520 days ago
In Canada the majority of shelter beds go to refugee claimants. I believe it is highly like many illegals in the US are homeless and make up the majority of homeless people. They are not part of the numbers you provided.
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mmooss 520 days ago
> In Canada the majority of shelter beds go to refugee claimants.

Is there data someplace that shows it?

> I believe it is highly like

I believe that angry gods cause rain. What does it matter?

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lostlogin 520 days ago
In 2022, the majority (90.3%) of shelter users were Canadian citizens, which has been the case for all years of analysis since 2015. The proportion of refugees and refugee claimants in the shelter system was 2.0% in 2022, up from 2021 (0.9%) but down compared to pre-pandemic (2019, 4.1%). Pandemic travel restrictions in 2020 and 2021 may have contributed to a decrease in the number of asylum claims, with a partial recovery in 2022.

https://housing-infrastructure.canada.ca/homelessness-sans-a...

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ipaddr 519 days ago
As of March 2023, refugees and asylum seekers made up 30% of the total population in Toronto's municipal shelter system. At that point they were upto 2,900 but that number has risen to over 4,200.

There was a 400+% increase in 2023.

https://www.toronto.ca/news/city-of-toronto-update-on-shelte...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/10933673/tor...

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stevenicr 520 days ago
according to that 'adults participating in the National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions' .. It also says foreign born is 1% vs native at 1.7% - so they are both 'a tiny fraction'

Whether or not a large percentage, or a large number or small number of immigrants are homeless or not,

one must assume that if 11 million people left the US next month, the price of rent in many places may go down a bit, and some currently unhoused people might be able to afford a cheaper place.

Of course another side is that wages in some industries will rise, and that may put more people into a position where they can afford an apartment.

What I'd like to see is how inexpensive optional housing can be made.

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15155 519 days ago
What impact do you suppose this population has on housing costs?
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