[9rx]

> Anecdotally, most people I know who love actual raves generally didn't go to clubs, for one.

In a similar vein, most people I know who love watching sports do not play the sport they enjoy watching. However, like the parent, I suspect that the numbers watching a sport strongly correlates with the numbers playing the sport. There need not be overlap between the watchers and the players for the correlation to stand. Something being in the zeitgeist lifts all related boats, it seems. Raves and clubs are different expressions of what is essentially the same fashion. It seems unlikely that only one expression would die off where the general fashion trend remains intact.

[jdgoesmarching]

> Raves and clubs are different expressions of what is essentially the same fashion.

This is a very efficient way to communicate that you don’t have experience with raves and/or clubs.

[9rx]

Efficient communication of lacking said experience would be met with details provided by someone with experience, not a commentary on efficiency itself. It turns out it is highly inefficient.

[sneak]

Clubs close at 2am in most states of the US, by law.

Raves usually start about then.

They are not remotely the same thing.

[saberience]

Guess what, "rave" isn't a scientific term with a precise definition defined by the IEEE board of standards.

For every raver I know, it means going out dancing to electronic music and usually taking some drugs other than alcohol. It doesnt matter if it starts at 1pm and ends at 1am, or whether it starts at 12am and ends at 5am. The time doesnt matter, legality doesn't matter, and location doesn't matter.