[PennRobotics]

I owned a Z13 Gen 1 and it was a horrendous piece of crap. I constantly had crashes, hangs, faulty suspend, keyboard problems, dock problems, audio problems, and so much more from the very beginning.

I very reluctantly purchased a X1 Carbon Gen 12 and am much more satisfied with the Linux implementation.

[d3Xt3r]

Sounds like a bad unit to me. Haven't had any such issues on mine, been running Fedora and Arch over the past couple of years.

[PennRobotics]

My Z13 most definitely was defective, although after seeing a few similar cases, I wonder if they had a bad batch or if that was just an unstable platform. Even after getting it serviced (which was a joke, because they don't diagnose Linux machines at the service center even though Lenovo sells them) nothing improved.

Strangely fortunate: it got stolen in Dublin and was covered by insurance.