[lapcat]

> there are plenty of places where housing is actually still quite cheap (for example, most of the Midwest).

The housing market in Madison, Wisconsin is crazy. I sold my house 8 years ago, and now its estimated value is 70% higher than my selling price. I know a lot of people in the area who are despondent about the prices.

[lolinder]

I said most. There are exceptions, of course.

[lapcat]

> I said most.

Ok, but what's the empirical justification for this claim? Why is Madison, Wisconsin a rare exception?

[johncearls]

Madison is exceptional for a midwestern city. It has a large and excellent state university. Epic is based there and most of FAANG has outposts there to draw the CS talent. Additionally, it is the state capitol which means a lot of companies providing services to the state. Aside from all that, it is a pretty picturesque location for the Midwest, with the two big lakes and surrounded by rolling hills. Something you won't find in Urbana-Champaign for comparison.

When people talk about low cost of living in the Midwest they generally mean more depressed areas. I live in a very low cost of living rural (15k ppl) community in Illinois, with half an acre on a lake in a 3000 sq foot house where the mortgage is only 250k. Of course, if I ever lose my remote job, I'd never be able to find work. Most of the people here work at one of 2 medium-sized factories or the hospital. The median household income is only $40k.

The town I live in is a far more common case for the rural Midwest.

[lapcat]

Ok, but the Midwest is also Chicago, Columbus, Detroit, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, etc.

> most of FAANG has outposts there to draw the CS talent.

I'm aware of a small Google office in Madison, but that's it.

[insane_dreamer]

when there are enough exceptions, they are no longer exceptions