[lithocarpus]

What's new to me is that it's becoming newsworthy, more people are talking about it.

To my current understanding, metabolic syndrome caused by sugar / glucose spikes is by far the biggest root cause of physical health issue in the US. Most people I know personally who are suffering from physical ailments, it's most likely metabolic syndrome at the root of it.

How to shift culture on this? When I'm in civilization in the US I'm constantly confronted with foods I have to turn down. It doesn't have to be that way.

Furthermore, because of what is in my opinion bad science and propaganda, a lot of people still think they need to stay away from saturated fat, which pushes them toward processed high glycemic index foods. Sure, you can eat a low saturated fat and low glycemic diet but it's not so easy. I'm serious it's shocking the number of people suffering from metabolic syndrome / diabetes who have told me they are trying to stay away from saturated fat but are eating crazy amounts of sugar.

I hope this continues to be talked about more and more so the people I love can turn down sugar without feeling like they're radical and countercultural.

Partly I think there's a taboo on talking about health and diet, that would be good to shift. I'm not about fat shaming but diabetes is really just bad, and preventable and reversible, and I'd like for that to be widely agreed on and talked about.

Will also be interesting to see how lawsuits like this play out: https://chat.google.com/dm/wQTk3gAAAAE/WPNwzCxw9sI/WPNwzCxw9...

[Mistletoe]

It's not propaganda. Saturated fat is bad. That's a common internet belief that runs rampant because saturated fat tastes good and it sounds awesome to believe some conspiracy against it.

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2019/10/21/advisory-replacing-...

Most of it always tracks back to Nina Teicholz. I wonder how many people she is sending to the grave?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

[lithocarpus]

I know it's hotly debated and I don't imagine I could convince you :). This is my opinion.

If I read right, you're saying that an entire food group that people have been eating for eons is simply "bad", specifically, meat, dairy, and eggs, in their unprocessed form. The argument I've seen is that it's better to eat a new kind of food that people have only begun eating in quantity within the last hundred ish years requiring industrial technology. (Specifically, oils extracted from plant material using solvents like hexane.)

I'm open minded but this is a really serious claim and I'd need really solid evidence which I haven't seen, and I've looked. There are a lot of studies; those that I've looked into have too many confounding variables for me to take their conclusions at face value.

I could also see the possibility that saturated fat in someone who already has metabolic syndrome might increase their risk of heart disease, and maybe be considered the proximate cause, in cases where the root cause is the metabolic syndrome caused by sugar in the first place.

There's also the question of there being different kinds of LDL cholesterol and it perhaps actually serving a function in the body that isn't categorically bad, even if in some circumstances the metric correlates with atherosclerosis.