[trickyager]

If anything, leaving this information out would flatten the complexities to an even greater degree. Understanding and sharing a well-rounded perspective of a person (e.g. that this person held objectively incorrect beliefs that were despised among his contemporaries) is quite literally why people study history.

[dotancohen]

  > objectively incorrect beliefs

Do you honestly not see the irony in declaring your own culture "objectively correct"? Do you eat meat? Burn carbon? These are things that conceivably may one day be considered even worse than we consider racism today. Don't be so quick to judge the past by today's values.

[trickyager]

You're bringing up subjective beliefs as a straw man. The idea that it's morally wrong to eat meat or burn carbon are subjective. I specifically said objectively incorrect beliefs. The idea that there exist races of humans who are uniquely "superior" or "inferior" is an objectively incorrect belief. It is not true now, and it has never been true.

[dotancohen]

The idea that there exist species who are uniquely "superior" or "inferior" is an objectively incorrect belief. It is not true now, and it has never been true. Every species on Earth fulfills a purpose, and humans have no right to farm any of them. It is objectively better for humans to return to pre-agricultural levels of population and eat only what we catch with our bare hands.

Of course, I don't believe that statement. But it is as "objectively true" as yours. I just don't want to dispute yours, because I personally agree with it. But I can not call it an objectively better statement.

[ssklash]

Can you take your very thinly-veiled racism apology elsewhere?

[dotancohen]

I am not being racist. I am demonstrating that our values are not "objectively correct".

Maybe someday a society that celebrates diversity in physical attributes will have preferred professions for those from races recognized to run faster, or jump higher, or father, or swim, even for individuals that do not particularly excel. And they might think us barbarians for ignoring all this beautiful diversity in human form and ability.

[trickyager]

Except you once again substituted race, the topic of conversation, with something else. We're not discussing the differences between species. We're discussing racist beliefs which are testable, falsifiable, and have been proven incorrect. The mental gymnastics you're performing to claim a relativist position about RACISIM is very telling.