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by arkh 532 days ago
In France, vote by mail was used between 1946 and 1975. It was stopped due to too much fraud (even if less than 2% of the population used it).

Just the fact requiring a valid ID is a contentious idea in the US is baffling when seen from here. I think more people in the US should check how elections are done in other countries (and not just 3rd world ones).
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gadders 532 days ago
The Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust looked into it in the UK as well in the early 2000's and from their Exec Summary:

- There have been at least 42 convictions for electoral fraud in the UK in the period 2000–2007.

- Greater use of postal voting has made UK elections far more vulnerable to fraud and resulted in several instances of large-scale fraud.

- The benefits of postal and electronic voting have been exaggerated, particularly in relation to claims about increased turnout and social inclusion

https://www.jrrt.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Purity-of...

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valar_m 532 days ago
Direct quote from the source you linked:

>>It is unlikely that there has been a significant increase in electoral malpractice since the introduction of postal voting on demand in 2000; available figures suggest that 32 convictions were made from 1994–99. In both periods, the offences arose almost exclusively from local elections, and related to a tiny proportion of all elections contested.

Again, the facts are clear, but that doesn't stop the baseless fearmongering. A direct quote from your source:

>>There is no evidence to date suggesting that electoral malpractice has occurred as a result of pilots of various forms of electronic voting. However, serious questions about the security of electronic voting from organised fraud remain unanswered.

It flatly concedes that no evidence of voter fraud from electronic voting exists, but then somehow concludes that serious questions remain unanswered. Simply absurd.

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valar_m 532 days ago
None of this changes the fact that mail-in voting in the United States is objectively and measurably secure, and that instances of fraud are so miniscule that claims of it having an impact on election outcomes are provably false.

Those are simply the facts.

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