[ribadeo]

Full stack polyglot dev here, the relentless pressure to use Sveltekit that has utterly destroyed plain Svelte docs, IMO, coupled with the koolaid kult around v5 is why i finally ditched svelte.

I have backend solutions and existing databases and existing backends. I would never consider a Js backend in a production app to begin with, despite the benefits an isomorphic approach offers. I dislike when physical actual boundaries in code execution contexts are obfuscated, for one...

But not everyone is building SPAs, and my dev server is my actual backend, thanks

[ribadeo]

Remember Meteor?!

Yeah, Svelte5 said "away with these pesky svelte users, lets market to React devs and make everyone realize that Vue3 has a bigger ecosystem, since you are gonna have to do a rewrite anyway "

Basically the opposite of this principled stance here on this htmx missive

Frontend framework churn costs money and lives

[homebrewer]

It doesn't have to, you can just start using a piece of technology 5-10 years after everybody else, you know.

We started using react a couple of years after hooks were introduced when there were millions of ready libraries, all major design patterns were established, tons of docs were written, etc., and although there's still major churn, it's nothing like it was when react first came out.

I looked at svelte when the hype circle started and decided to postpone using it for at least five years — these comments show it was a right decision.

It saves money and time to be conservative with these things.