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by nicce 531 days ago
That is the difference in the U.S. businesses vs. European.

In Europe many companies think ethics even if is not illegal on paper.

In the U.S. you need to get big before it is illegal, lobby for it and then pay fines. But fines are okay since you got big already.
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ChocolateGod 531 days ago
All the hate tech journalists gave the EU because Apple Intelligence isn't launched there was insane, yet this is what EU legislation is designed to avoid.
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tsunamifury 531 days ago
You must be joking right. This euro-superior tone that always pops up on here is delusional.

Nestle. Shell Oil. I can go on... literally nothing about what you said is grounded in reality.

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KaiserPro 531 days ago
I didn't know that nestle and shell had AI departments.

Look, I'm not +1 the EU here, but having some level of legal protection against marauding corporations is good. Sure EU based companies are evil, but they can't be as abusive to normal people because they are constrained by a semi-functional legal system.

The US used to have that as well, along with a functioning legislature.

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tsunamifury 531 days ago
They do not. I can't even begin to explain to you how delusional this is.

To be clear, I gave testimony to the NTHSA that the first Porsche Taycan was unfit for road driving due to extreme errors in the software architecture and in part got the CEO of Porsche fired. (Specifically error handling so laughably bad it caused the entire car to lock up at speed.)

The EU only FOLLOWED grudgingly after the US demanded the recall. I am extremely aware of EXACTLY how risk-taking European companies are.

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nicce 531 days ago
I am not joking.

”Move fast and break things” was even the motto of Zuckerberg back in day in Facebook. There are studies about it.

Even Y Combinator has some history of admitting that they seek people like that:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2579990

I particularly meant tech companies. Of course, you can find unethical businesses everywhere.

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tsunamifury 531 days ago
Im sorry, I feel like you just countered with one of the most obvious statements in this field.

SAP, Claude etc are all doing the same things American counterparts do. You need a slight dose of reality.

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