[autokad]

I disagree with the premises outright. I have no intention of causing no harm to anyone. Just by living, we cause harm to others and other beings.

I am going to say things to other people and that is going to make them upset, that is ok. They are going to say things that make me upset, that is ok.

Someone is going to give me a cold, flu, etc. and that is ok. They didn't have to do it, they could have stayed inside for weeks until they were sure they were not sick, but who wants to live that way?

There is a level of harm in anything that that a living thing does.

[kevingadd]

It's not a question of 'stay inside for weeks' or 'go out' though is it? It's a spectrum and there are a lot of basic precautions like masking possible that people refuse to do.

Personally I live my life but will continue wearing a KN95 until Covid stops being in active circulation. You can call this paranoia but I haven't caught anything since I started doing this and taking other basic precautions like distancing - no covid, no flu, no colds. So I'm benefiting from it and by doing this I'm less likely to spread a disease to someone immunocompromised.

Earlier during covid I saw a lot of people doing the same, which I appreciated. Now I'm the only person doing this and it makes me a little sad, because if I spread a cold or flu or covid to somebody's grandma, they might die even if the virus is no problem for my younger immune system.

In other countries it's conventional to wear a mask any time you're remotely sick or have symptoms that might indicate illness, but we don't do it here. Instead, people go to work while sick and make their coworkers sick.

[autokad]

the point was not to get into a mask debate but "In other countries it's conventional to wear a mask any time you're remotely sick" should ring as BS to you, because those countries have flu and cold just like any other country.

AND if you ask them, they don't do it to prevent others from getting sick (not that that works unless you are gasping air through an n95), but they do it to protect themselves. This is especially true in China where there is also air pollution to consider.

[dandellion]

> who wants to live that way?

Some of us. I only go outside when I can't avoid it.

[autokad]

I wasn't being literal when I said 'who wants to live that way' as in to mean every single person with no exceptions. yes, Locked-in syndrome is a thing. its not healthy but hey, you do you.

[dandellion]

I can exercise at home, I moved outside the city and I have a large patio so I get sun and fresh air, I just only leave the house less than once a week when there's something I can't do from home. My friends all moved to different countries years ago so I only see them online anyway. I do yearly check ups, I'm actually in much better health than when I lived in the city and went outside several times a day.