[uptownfunk]

My observations for the last two years:

Employers are hyper hyper selective

There are a lot a lot of fake job postings

The bar has gone way way up

It is in general very difficult and gruelling to get a job

If engineering roles are hard to find, product is 10-100x worse

If you have a job, be thankful, don't rock the ship

OBVIOUSLY there will be statements to the contrary, but this is really more in the spirit of - if you're having a hard time out there, you are not alone, and at least one person out there (who has been working for the last 10 years or so) finds it much much harder. I would say reminscent closer to 2014-2015 than anything like 2020-2021.

[afpx]

The change was quite shocking. For 25 years, to get a new job I’d send out 5 resumes, get 4 interviews, and 3 offers. This time around, I sent 200+ resumes, got 2 interviews, and ghosted on both.

[franktankbank]

I think employers are bracing for another employee sided market and trying to juice their hand as long as they have it. My belief is a lot of F500 companies are running on skeleton crew H1B which might be a crumbly foundation. They will neg-neg-neg until the clock runs out.

[klipklop]

They will just expand immigration visa programs (something Musk, who is in favor of such programs, says he will go to “war” over) or outsource.

I don’t see any evidence for an employee favored job market. This is not 2020/21 anymore. The large corporations are firmly in power in tech.

[cmxch]

What would happen if we uncapped the TFW/immigration/offshoring programs but essentially made it cost enough that you could give the displaced a locality adjusted floor wage?

[uptownfunk]

I have gone through something similar where I won’t feel motivated to even pursue the interview properly because I’ve been burnt so many times already. Yes you just need one yes (ideally more for negotiating leverage) but those 1-2 offers are damn hard to come by these days

[UncleOxidant]

Landing a white collar job now is akin to winning the lottery. My wife's been looking since October '23 when she was laid off from one of the big banks. She doesn't want to give up quite yet, but taking social security is probably going to be something she decides to do soon. Similar for the cohort of people laid off with her (the whole office was shut down, about 250 people) - very few of the ones she's staid in contact with have landed something and if they have it's at a lower pay point.

[j45]

It might be a lasting trend for employers to hold off as long as they can until the right candidate comes along to not affect the culture or other things.

The cost and impact of a bad hire can be really bad.