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by yongjik 536 days ago
I looked up the AA 1420 crash report (linked from Wikipedia) and it says:

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/...

> The calculated ground trajectory indicated that the flight 1420 airplane departed runway 4R at about 97 knots and impacted the runway 22L approach lighting system support structure at about 83 knots.

97 knots is 112 mph. Somewhere below another commenter said Jeju Air 2216 left the runway at about 160 knots (184 mph). It's a pretty big difference.

I'm no expert, but my guess is that the main distinguishing factor of all the accidents where most/all survived is not the lack of killer berms, but the speed of the plane when it left the runway.

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1420 airplane departed runway 4R at about 97 knots and impacted the runway 22L approach lighting system support structure at about 83 knots.

That's a more explicit restatement of my own "likely as AA 1420 had decelerated significantly both on the runway ... and its subsequent 240 cross-terrain slide."

Jeju 2216's lack of braking authority may have resulted from a dual engine outage, possibly a consequence of pilot error, noted here:

<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42605837>

Absent the ILS structure, the aircraft would have had ~300-500m to decelerate across largely forgiving terrain before possibly encountering fairly light structures, and ultimately bay waters, detailed here:

<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42607464>

As I've noted already, we're waiting on investigation conclusions to understand further, though it's entertaining to speculate, and IMO somewhat more productive to look at similar events and history.