[ohmy987]

> The future of our society is in a large part online

I wonder how accurate this is.

I have no account in any social media except in LinkedIn (which I see more as a job portal than social media), and that's how I raise my kids. I live without facebook, instagram, twitter, or whatever else and I'd risk to say life is better without those.

[FollowingTheDao]

It is not accurate. This person is one of those extremes they talk about in the paper.

"For instance, news stories that express outgroup animosity are 67% more likely to be shared on social media (Rathje et al., 2021). "

They are holding an extreme view and posting it online.

[saagarjha]

You’re on social media right now fwiw

[averageRoyalty]

Are they? Personally (and I know many others agree with this) I wouldn't class BBS', forums, an online guestbook, Steam etc as 'social media'. I can't quite qualify the delineation, but it is there.

[nicklaf]

Hacker News lacks a few distinguishing features that are characteristic of modern corporate social media: in particular, algorithmically driven feeds based on engagement metrics optimized for an advertising business model. The closest you get to that on here is the main page featuring YC companies from time to time (which is a far cry from a Tik Tok rabbit hole).

That being said, voting mechanisms which change the order of user-contributed content is hallmark of social media shared by Hacker News. I like to think, though, that this place has a strong enough community to prevent the voting dynamics from devolving to what you see on the most politicized subreddits. (I'll mention that the quality on here is in no small part the result of dang's diligent moderation, btw!)

An interesting message board to compare Hacker News with in this regard is actually 4chan. The former is maybe less social media like inasmuch as we have no inline images here, so there is no room for the sort of meme culture you see on the latter. On the other hand, 4chan is entirely bereft of voting (and even accounts to assign karma to, although reusable tripcodes come the closest), and as such is in some ways even more egalitarian (in contrast to non-anonymous social media).

[saagarjha]

Mastodon is social media.

[CaptainFever]

The definition of social media from Oxford is "websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking". I think that describes HN. We participate in social networking on this website, and we can share content, and create content (in the form of comments, Show HNs, etc).

Personally, and this is a bit of a "hot take", but I think some people trying to define a difference is just trying to justify continue using HN and forums like Reddit while still hating on social media or wanting it banned. To be consistent with getting off social media, I think one ought to get off HN and Reddit completely as well (use a site blocker extension). But yeah this is a bit of an inflammatory opinion, I understand.

[saagarjha]

Would you consider Reddit to be social media?