[xen2xen1]

I've had the same complaint about DEI stuff in the US. Diversity is wonderful, but you also need people to integrate. The US used to be called the great melting pot, now we don't expect people to melt. No wonder we have so many problems. People used to be expected to integrate, that don't now, people should rightly be pissed.

[nemo44x]

> Diversity is wonderful

Why? You literally say on your very next sentence that it’s not - that diversity must be destroyed through integration and a melting pot.

Diversity and immigration always has a cost and that’s the destruction of your existing culture in part. Sometimes that tradeoff is worth it. But you can’t overdo it.

And getting pissed at the people that don’t integrate is barking up the wrong tree. They never agreed to that and they should be left alone to live their lives.

We should go after the people that allowed this to happen.

[bad_haircut72]

Mix copper and tin to make bronze, thats what people mean when they say diversity is good. They dont mean they want a sludge of different unmixed metals.

[ThrowawayTestr]

Too bad, you're getting a shitton of copper.

[idiotsecant]

I get some amusement out of people who are afraid of other cultures. Having a lot of cultures smooshed together is a culture. How do you think you got the culture you have now? Pro tip: the culture that existed when you were 12 years old might seem like it's the most emotionally 'correct' but it represents a blip in time and is no more or less significant than what came before or after it.

Have some sense of perspective and you'll be less likely to turn into an old bitter man, shaking his fist at clouds.

[bufferoverflow]

How do you mix a culture that throws gays people off roofs with a culture that celebrates gay people?

To me it's pretty obvious not all cultures are good to mix with.

[bombcar]

Obviously by creating a culture that celebrates gay people before throwing them off roofs.

Which isn’t terribly far fetched - apparently some gladiators were basically sports stars, with death.

[mensetmanusman]

Install Foxconn nets?

[idiotsecant]

In response i'd suggest watching the star trek DS9 'root beer' scene between Garak and Quark.

The answer to bad ideas is not to isolate them. It's to outcompete them. The battlefield of the modern world is the hearts and minds of it's citizens. If our morality is superior and our ideas are successful, we should just keep doing what we do and let them spread, like a virus.

[dataflow]

> Having a lot of cultures smooshed together is a culture.

This reads a lot like "everything is a social construct".

A culture is a property that's shared by the population. The absence of such a shared property is not its presence.

[idiotsecant]

A monoculture is the least healthy kind of crop. We thrive the most when we incorporate the best ideas from the largest volume of idea space. We pay a price for this, in that we have to undergo the messy process of separating the good ideas from the bad but unless we're dead and stale as a culture we're doing that anyhow.

New is good, anything else is death. Anyone pining for a 'good ol days' culture is chasing a mirage that never existed in the first place and will do damage to themselves and everyone around them by trying.

[dataflow]

> A monoculture is the least healthy kind of crop

Are you making the analogy because it sounds poetic, or because it actually makes sense? Humans are not plants, and they're not grown or raised to be killed for someone else's benefit.

If you insist on the analogy anyway: livestock are homogeneous just fine. Also you seem to be forgetting that weeds and invasive species are also things that can destroy ecosystems.

> New is good, anything else is death. Anyone pining for a 'good ol days' culture is chasing a mirage

That's what a melting pot is. It creates something new. You seem to be struggling to understand what people are actually arguing for or against.

[ThrowawayTestr]

Your comment boils down to "don't hate to player, hate the game" and I hate to agree.