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by motorest 539 days ago
> The feds recently convicted a guy by arguing a piece of metal (basically a metal business card) with a drawing of a machine gun conversion device on, as having sold machine guns.

I feel you're grossly and purposely misrepresenting the case.

The case you're referring to was over unregistered machine-gun conversion devices. The guy was selling them online and was caught with over a thousand machine-gun conversion kits.

What makes this case noteworthy is the dissimulated way kits were being marketed and sold, such as bottle openers, pen holders, or business cards.

The guy also marketed his machine-gun conversion kits as an AR-related device and "the parts ATF wishes never existed".

I believe you are well-aware of this fact. Yet, you chose to misrepresent it.

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They were not kits, and even if you did classify them as one it would necessarily result in every ar-15 being a machine gun because the parts sold in one can do the same hammer follow malfunction without possessing or reshaping the metal card.

It's a metal business card shape with a drawing of the parts of a lightning link on it, that the state admitted didn't even function as one when dremmeled out using the blueprint. Even if you cut into the shapes, ATF could not get it to induce automatic fire. This is primarily a first amendment case and will get overturned as soon as a non-lukewarm IQ judge sees it. It's inevitable.

> They were not kits (...)

That's a personal assertion you're stating, and one that ignores and contrasts with all facts presented in the case.

I won't waste my time debating this.

That's a hilarious criticism considering the case was about a specific statutory definition, and your personal rewording to reduce to 'kits' which apparently means a flat single piece of metal with a (wrong) blueprint on it is. In that case the anarchist cookbook is a kit since it includes flammable paper that could spark the fire of one of the designs inside, therefore also violates the NFA.

A kit is usually sold to make it easier to do something. In this case the kit makes it even harder to induce hammer follow than simply using the parts already in an ar. Some kit, lmao. It is scary speech on the same kind of metal plates that sometimes instead have business card type speech.