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by imtringued 531 days ago
>odds are Starship will be fully operational before New Glenn completes testing.

What does this even mean? Fully operational? Starship has three versions and they are still testing the first one which isn't supposed to reach orbit in the next flight nor is it supposed to carry any payload, not even a mass simulator. When you ask people why the booster hasn't been reflown, you get this confusing answer that the booster is "already obsolete" even though they have planned to launch three more "obsolete" boosters after the first successful catch.

Everyone is bragging how fast SpaceX is, but they are starting to drag their feet. It's like those people who build a demo that looks like the product is almost finished, but it turns out those were the easy and visible 80% that you can show off, now you're left with the hard and time consuming 20% and you're going to run into delays like everyone else.

And then there is the fact that New Glenn is going to launch on 5th of January and attempt landing on the first flight. Barring an explosion on the way to orbit, New Glenn will be flying at least half a dozen missions carrying payloads throughout 2025 including a moon landing of Blue Moon MK1.

Your comment comes across as pessimistically predicting the failure of the first launch or being ignorant that it will launch in four days.

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"the easy and visible 80% that you can show off"

There was nothing easy about the Raptor engine, for one. It is absolutely the best rocket engine in the world by far, and the only methane-based engine that ever reached space.

AFAIK the only "real" problem that SpaceX is now having with Starship is the heat shield vs. rapid reusability. It is an important problem, but it also means that many other complicated problems (such as precise exercise of the belly flop) are fully solved.

> the only methane-based engine that ever reached space.

TQ-12 that is used by Zhuque-2 reached orbit first. Of course Raptor is much better, as TQ-12 is a simple gas generator engine

> New Glenn will be flying at least half a dozen missions carrying payloads throughout 2025

12 missions is their upper limit of capacity, so it’s “at most 12”.

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1835610703174255074?mx=2