[wiseowise]

Only one of them will lead you to promo. If you want to do double amount of work for nothing - that’s your right.

[saagarjha]

If you want to self-identify as a grifter-grinder that’s also your right…?

[wiseowise]

Not how I identify myself, but sure. What’s your point?

[saagarjha]

My point is that if you want every single thing you do at work to be the bare minimum to get promoted then you are welcome to do that. Others don't necessarily feel that way.

[SR2Z]

And those people get promoted entirely of the luck of having a decent manager. Everyone else who has a mediocre manager will end up spinning their wheels and wondering why they're not getting promoted.