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by fragmede 540 days ago
The problem with that is that they're also a problem when they're on the streets, sometimes even more of a problem. Someone who's not a problem and generally minding their own business is less of an threat than someone who's drug addiction is driving them to commit violence. We can't arrest them before they do anything violent, and after they've harmed someone else is too late.
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mmooss 539 days ago
> The problem with that is that they're also a problem when they're on the streets, sometimes even more of a problem. Someone who's not a problem and generally minding their own business is less of an threat than someone who's drug addiction is driving them to commit violence.

That applies to every criminal act, so why are we signaling out people addicted to drugs? Plenty of people on Wall Street commit crimes daily, stealing money from innocent people - do we worry about how to preemptively stop them?

The answer, IMHO, is that some have effectively demonized people with drug addictions and people who are unhoused, to legitimize hate and violence in our society (and to get rid of people they don't like). 'I hate/fear unhoused / mentally ill people, so it's ok to choke one to death or lock them away without trial.'

It's not only hurts and oppresses those individuals, but it lays the foundation for the next stages - progressive protestors, and soon mass detention of immigrants. It's either human rights for all or for none.

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in-pursuit 540 days ago
> We can't arrest them before they do anything violent

Why not? Using drugs is illegal.

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fragmede 540 days ago
Where are you? Surprisingly that's jurisdiction dependent and it's often not.
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in-pursuit 540 days ago
I'm in NY. Possession of a controlled substance is a class A misdemeanor here[0], which can carry a maximum prison sentence of 1 year.

0: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/220.03

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fragmede 540 days ago
You said using, not possession, and after you've used it, it's no longer in your possession, externally. That distinction does not matter in New York, however, as it's not one of the places where it's illegal to posses but legal if you've just used it. (Unless it's weed.)
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in-pursuit 540 days ago
I feel like we're talking about semantics here. You must posses drugs before / while actively using, and heavy addicts use multiple times a day.
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