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by madmask 542 days ago
Afaik Italy can’t close its borders and deport back migrants because it’s not sovereign anymore and in the eu
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Italy not only can close the outer borders, but Italy must and doesn't (doesn't work hard enough).

That's what Frontex is all about. Same in Lithuania - not only it can close outer borders, but it has a requirement to do so.

So unless being sovereign is about having borders open, this argument doesn't work.

What about the inner borders? Often times "illegal" (not authorized being in the country) aliens come from the inner borders, which can not be effectively controlled as per Schengen.

During the 2015 migrant crisis, did not refugees end up traveling to Germany while first entering Greece and Italy? If Dublin regulation really applied, Germany would not need to take the responsibility of the majority of the asylum seekers. At the same time, that only concerns for the asylum seekers and not the unregistered aliens.

If European NGOs are free to pick up (mostly) economic illegal migrants a few miles off Libia and drop them in Italy, the former interior minister is prosecuted for blocking them (finally absolved), you see it's not a lack of will
They can indeed close their borders, as evidenced by the fact that they're doing so right now across the whole border with Slovenia (and they're far from the only ones): https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-...

They can't do so permanently, but they can provide some sort of a justification every six months and keep it closed, nobody can veto them.

The important border for immigrants is the coastline, not the land borders with other EU countries. We can’t close them and forcefully repatriate like Australia does due to “humanitarian” reasons and NGOs.