[some_furry]

I'm inferring your assumptions based on what would logically cause a person to continue the conversation in the manner you are.

And this has been a hilarious exhibition for all parties involved.

I proposed a simple way to prove remote viewing without needing to have a complete theory for why or how it works. You assumed I was playing gotcha with an impossible test. Instead, I proposed an impossible-to-debunk way to prove you're right. You continued to ask if I "tried it" yet while insisting you don't care what I believe. And now you say

> Again, you're lost in this imagining trying to make your 'not trying' about other people or excuses. It's not. Just about you.

And, like, this is obviously projection. I don't need supernatural powers to realize this.

You've been cascading your own misunderstandings to the point of ridiculousness.

Yet all I was doing was say, "Hey, if you do this, you'll have an irrefutable outcome that will give any skeptic pause".

If you had any intuition for analytic thinking, it would be clear that proposing such a test makes me on your side, not against you.

But no, you instead continue to respond in a way that is best explained by assuming that I wanted to fill James Randi's shoes.

I'm a goddamn furry. It's in my username. I never made any attempt to obfuscate this. I spend a lot of free time with people who aren't just "playing pretend" online, but who are significantly psychologically comforted by calling them their fursona species. And I have no trouble squaring objective biological materialism with "here's an easy button to make a friend feel better". When it comes to remote viewing, I'm agnostic. I have no strong opinions either way. That you keep insisting I'm here to discredit you or your beliefs is your own insecurity screaming through the actions and context of your words.

I don't need a fucking crystal ball to see it. Maybe you do.

[keepamovin]

Wow, that got ugly.

  I'm inferring your assumptions based on what would logically cause a person to continue the conversation in the manner you are.
  And this has been a hilarious exhibition for all parties involved.
  I proposed a simple way to prove remote viewing without needing to have a complete theory for why or how it works. You assumed I was playing gotcha with an impossible test. Instead, I proposed an impossible-to-debunk way to prove you're right. You continued to ask if I "tried it" yet while insisting you don't care what I believe. And now you say
  > Again, you're lost in this imagining trying to make your 'not trying' about other people or excuses. It's not. Just about you.
  And, like, this is obviously projection. I don't need supernatural powers to realize this.
  You've been cascading your own misunderstandings to the point of ridiculousness.
  Yet all I was doing was say, "Hey, if you do this, you'll have an irrefutable outcome that will give any skeptic pause".
  If you had any intuition for analytic thinking, it would be clear that proposing such a test makes me on your side, not against you.
  But no, you instead continue to respond in a way that is best explained by assuming that I wanted to fill James Randi's shoes.
  I'm a goddamn furry. It's in my username. I never made any attempt to obfuscate this. I spend a lot of free time with people who aren't just "playing pretend" online, but who are significantly psychologically comforted by calling them their fursona species. And I have no trouble squaring objective biological materialism with "here's an easy button to make a friend feel better". When it comes to remote viewing, I'm agnostic. I have no strong opinions either way. That you keep insisting I'm here to discredit you or your beliefs is your own insecurity screaming through the actions and context of your words.
  I don't need a fucking crystal ball to see it. Maybe you do.

You don't need to prove it: there's zero doubt. The test is obviously cooked, you didn't listen, and haven't tried.

You assume I'm encouraging you to try because I care what you believe. Nope. Wrong again! Because I enjoy the idea of people becoming stronger, and seeing more reality does that. A world filled with stronger people is better.

Dude, there's a lot of delusion in your answer, I appreciate you for revealing it. Maybe you can read it back and learn.

Hahaha! You try to convince people you are on their side by exploding into abuse? After mislabeling and projecting your stuff onto people? Hahahahaha!

However you saw your role here in the arc of the psi/Remote Viewing story, it was never that. This was just 1 moment in your life where you had a chance to try something new. And you failed. Because of fear. Just like I laid out in my OG linked answer why it would be hard. You showed the example.

I hope you have a nice day and give it a shot another time.

[some_furry]

> You don't need to prove it: there's zero doubt.

You don't seem to understand the point, or the value, of proof. Ironically, this belies a poor understanding of the value of belief.

If you're going to assert "there's zero doubt", then you should have profound amounts of proof. But to couple that with "you don't need to prove it" exposes a very fragile worldview.

Doubt isn't the opposite of belief, but its opening act. If I believe something to be true, I can explain why. This requires proof and a state of humility. The strongest faith is forged in the fires of the deepest doubt.

If you aren't willing to entertain doubts or understand the value of proofs, why are you even on a hacker forum? Everything here is science, mathematics, and technology. Hacking requires a mix of curiosity, rigor, and imagination. It's not that any discussion outside the accepted consensus is unwelcome, but if you're going to engage in such a silly way, you shouldn't be surprised when things "[get] ugly".

[keepamovin]

Dude you just need to get first hand experience. That’s the whole point. You can keep dancing around it, but that’s a fact. Until then, you’re just lost in delusion. You have no concept of my worldview, barely your own. You need to try. If you don’t do that, you just keep generating garbage like this, unchallenged, think you’re right - you’re missing so much of the picture. You’re so wrong, you don’t even know it.

[some_furry]

> Dude you just need to get first hand experience.

Why?

> That’s the whole point. You can keep dancing around it, but that’s a fact.

Why do you believe this to be true?

First-hand experience doesn't seem to offer me much except confirmation bias and feeding one's ego. No thanks.

> Until then, you’re just lost in delusion.

What belief have I uttered in this discussion that warrants the word "delusion"?

> You have no concept of my worldview, barely your own.

How would that even work, having "barely [my] own" concept of my own worldview? If I barely have a concept of a given worldview, how would it be mine? Even if it were flawed?

> You need to try. If you don’t do that, you just keep generating garbage like this, unchallenged, think you’re right - you’re missing so much of the picture. You’re so wrong, you don’t even know it.

We have language for a reason. If you can't explain something and convince me of it being true without me having to experience it first-hand, and independent experts cannot interrogate your explanations to agree that it's correct, then how do you know it's actually true?

You keep making absolute statements, but get really defensive when I ask simple questions.

[keepamovin]

Dude, there's a lot of delusion in your answer, I appreciate you for revealing it. Maybe you can read it back and learn.

However you saw your role here in the arc of the psi/Remote Viewing story, it was never that. This was just 1 moment in your life where you had a chance to try something new. And you failed. Because of fear. Just like I laid out in my OG linked answer why it would be hard. You showed the example.

I hope you have a nice day and give it a shot another time.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42528680

[some_furry]

That you keep assuming I have fear is both incorrect and belittling. Please stop.