[lukew3]

Notice how gen Z is less anxious than Millennials and Gen x when it comes to losing their phone. I think that younger generations will have a better understanding of the addictive nature of phones from a young age and will learn that they will not go far if they are absorbed in their phones. My hope is that we will learn to use the easily available entertainment on our phones like we learn to use recreational drugs, with moderation and respect.

[nunez]

Heavy HEAVY doubt given how many young kids are on tablets (or given one when they need to be pacified in social settings)

[ororo]

They’ll grow up with it and it will seem boring in adulthood.

Millennials had it dumped in their lap like GenX and haven’t had time to build “cognitive antibodies” but I think that’s starting to happen

Elders were addicted to TV for similar reason, but as a Xennial I grew up on TV and find it fucking boring.

Teen use of drugs and alcohol, sex is way down compared to prior generations.

It’ll take time and progress can be hampered by avarice of powers that be coughVCcough

Human biology is analog not digital. It’s far more fluid than a machine; one can be a social nut but care for themselves and others because philosophy of proper social etiquette is pretentious phrenology like bullshit. It’ll evolve defenses on its own that corpo won’t be able to anticipate or ignore until it’s too late. And just not giving a fuck to begin with is an option. Not much Sam Altman, PG can do if people just don’t use these stupid things if people just evolve into nonsense discourse but keep stuff on the shelves.

IMO in the US we need to take a minute to live by Tim Leary’s mindset, drop out and get strapped and remind a couple hundred mega rich 8 billion other people don’t actually need them.

Only Watchman will ever be able to police Watchmen https://aeon.co/essays/game-theory-s-cure-for-corruption-mak...

[nunez]

I hope you’re right!

[lolinder]

> Notice how gen Z is less anxious than Millennials and Gen x when it comes to losing their phone.

Wait, what? Has this been your experience? My sense has been the exact opposite: the younger the person the more attached to the phone and the more sense of existential dread when it goes missing.

[technothrasher]

Yeah, I'm Gen X and if I don't have my phone, it is an inconvenience. But my Gen Z son misplaces his phone and he is completely panicked and non-functional.

[warner25]

Relevant story: In 2015-2016, I was the commander of a few hundred new troops going through their initial Army training; not basic training, but the subsequent stage where they had a bit more freedom. When they violated the rules, I had the power to take away those freedoms, fine them up to a few weeks of pay, etc. Most of them endured that without blinking an eye.

Eventually I confirmed with the lawyers that I could also take away their phones, and that broke some of them. I mean that I had troops break down in tears in my office when I informed them of the punishment, and some went to extreme lengths to circumvent the punishment and secretly gain access to another phone. (They still had laptops and Wi-Fi, by the way, along with permission to borrow a phone if they needed to make an important call.)

The Army has studied this a bit and found that not allowing troops to have their phones during basic training is a significant obstacle to recruiting right now.